[Cat] Glyph of Mangle giving -dps on Glyphlist

Topics: Rawr.Cat
May 22, 2009 at 3:41 AM

I was meddling around with glyphs a bit on 2.2.4, and for some reason when I have Glyph of Savage Roar, and Glyph of Shred enabled and then select Mangle as additional Glyph, it shows the dps gain from the mangle glyph as -37,86 - that can't by right, can it? Even if I wouldn't gain anything it should never cost me dps to have an additional glyph, should it?

As always thx for the continiuos work on this great programm.

Coordinator
May 23, 2009 at 3:11 AM

Please post the character file.

May 23, 2009 at 5:14 AM

@Astrylian

I could reproduce on my cat by removing ranks from Shredding Attacks.

Coordinator
May 24, 2009 at 12:02 AM

Ah, so basically there's a situation where more mangling is actually better, but just not ALL mangling.

May 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Here's the file. Talent Spec is set to the preconfigured "Cat" spec.

 

 

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