Marrowstrike vs Edge of Ruin

Topics: Rawr.Base.Items
Oct 7, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Hiya Guys,

 

I just wanted to hold this one up against you. I've been dismissing it but each time I run an optimize Marrowstrike comes up as an upgrade for Edge of Ruin. You can compare the items here http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=47493;47522.

My armory link is here: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azuremyst&n=Dwaladin

I'd go nuts on a dummy to test it, except that it requires a +20 strength gem (270g) and Massacre enchant (700g). That's almost 1K gold just to try it out while I'm not convinced Rawr is correct. And frankly, for 1dps more it's hardly worth it. Agreed, bigger numbers give me a bigger stiffy but if my wife won't notice it the bigger size just gets in the way ;-)

 

Tx as always.

Dwaladin.

Coordinator
Oct 7, 2009 at 6:44 PM

Well, sure, there's a cost to each upgrade. The optimizer will only tell you what setup will give you the most DPS, from what you have available. It's quite possible that the optimal gear requires a ton of gold/time to get to, and is only a couple DPS more than your current gear. You need to weigh the value of however much DPS you could gain, against the costs to get there, yourself. Perhaps it's not a big enough of an upgrade to be worth it, and you want to wait until a 232 weapon comes along.

 

P.S. Those are some pretty amazing prices there, your server's economy must suck! 

Oct 7, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Astrylian wrote:

P.S. Those are some pretty amazing prices there, your server's economy must suck! 

^^^^

And something being stupid expensive and not worth getting is common to find in Rawr.  Once in a while when my gear shifts it wants me to swap 6 different gems to new ones for a net gain of 2 DPS.  Needless to say I don't do it :). 

Rawr just tells you what is best if you had everything you marked available and didn't care about costs etc.  It's up to you to decide if a given upgrade is worth DKP/gemming/enchanting or if you'd rather wait for something that's more of a substantial upgrade.

Oct 7, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Astrylian wrote:

P.S. Those are some pretty amazing prices there, your server's economy must suck! 

Hehe your right about that. Has advantages too though.

I understand the whole thing about not being worth it etc, but I guess I just wasn't very clear on what I meant to ask.

I've been dismissing the upgrade because I believe it is incorrect. Marrowstrike should not be an upgrade over Edge of Ruin on my character so basically I doubt the validity of Rawr in this respect which is why I posted up.

See if I would have agreed on Marrowstrike being an upgrade, but just too expensive for the marginal gain, I wouldn't come post here to complain about it :).

Coordinator
Oct 7, 2009 at 10:17 PM

Again, if you *ever* want us to clarify why Rawr values things the way it does, you have to provide the character file.

Oct 8, 2009 at 7:26 AM

Ah, right. Forgot about that.

 

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Coordinator
Oct 8, 2009 at 7:28 AM

Err... In the future, post character files in an issue (or just post it somewhere if you want). Don't make us copy/paste that huge wall of text into a new file...

Oct 8, 2009 at 2:47 PM

Might want to copy your character onto a PTR with as much gold etc. as you can get. Then copy a premade one as Blizz will supply you with gems etc., then you can do as much free dummy testing as you want. :)

 

Oct 26, 2009 at 9:51 AM

So what is the answer to this Astylian or whoever is working with Rawr.

I have the same question. For a Ret paladin,  why is Marrowstike rated a higher upgrade to Edge of Ruin for a ?

I have both, and I put a 20STR gem in it as RAWR   indicated.  But I only put Greater Savagery enchant on the Marrowstrike and the Edge of Ruin. I don't seem  to get any better DPs in recount program with the marrowstirke.

Can you please verify that Marrowstrike is a better weapon than Edge of Ruin for a Retadin? This is my first post to rawr.  I like the program - I'm just confused about some of the suggestion.

I don't mind at all spending the 1000g if necessary - I just want to be sure that the marrowstrike is better than Edge of ruin.

thanks

 

Oct 26, 2009 at 10:55 AM

This question should be: Why is Marrowstrike a better weapon for ME than Edge of Ruin?

And the only way we could answer this is by looking at your character file.