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[Cat] Glyph of Mangle giving -dps on Glyphlist

Topics: Rawr.Cat
May 22, 2009 at 4:41 AM

I was meddling around with glyphs a bit on 2.2.4, and for some reason when I have Glyph of Savage Roar, and Glyph of Shred enabled and then select Mangle as additional Glyph, it shows the dps gain from the mangle glyph as -37,86 - that can't by right, can it? Even if I wouldn't gain anything it should never cost me dps to have an additional glyph, should it?

As always thx for the continiuos work on this great programm.

May 23, 2009 at 4:11 AM

Please post the character file.

May 23, 2009 at 6:14 AM

@Astrylian

I could reproduce on my cat by removing ranks from Shredding Attacks.

May 24, 2009 at 1:02 AM

Ah, so basically there's a situation where more mangling is actually better, but just not ALL mangling.

May 24, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Here's the file. Talent Spec is set to the preconfigured "Cat" spec.

 

 

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  <ActiveBuffs>Commanding Presence (Attack Power)</ActiveBuffs>
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  <ActiveBuffs>Ferocious Inspiration</ActiveBuffs>
  <ActiveBuffs>Improved Moonkin Form</ActiveBuffs>
  <ActiveBuffs>Leader of the Pack</ActiveBuffs>
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  <ActiveBuffs>Power Word: Fortitude</ActiveBuffs>
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  <ActiveBuffs>Heroic Presence</ActiveBuffs>
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  <ActiveBuffs>Totem of Wrath</ActiveBuffs>
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  <ActiveBuffs>Flask of Endless Rage</ActiveBuffs>
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  <ActiveBuffs>Master of Anatomy</ActiveBuffs>
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  <ActiveBuffs>Dreamwalker Battlegear 2 Piece Bonus</ActiveBuffs>
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      <key>
        <string>Cat</string>
      </key>
      <value>
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&lt;/CalculationOptionsCat&gt;</string>
      </value>
    </item>
    <item>
      <key>
        <string>Bear</string>
      </key>
      <value>
        <string>&lt;?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-16"?&gt;
&lt;CalculationOptionsBear xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"&gt;
  &lt;TargetLevel&gt;83&lt;/TargetLevel&gt;
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&lt;/CalculationOptionsBear&gt;</string>
      </value>
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      <key>
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