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Presets For ICC 25

Topics: Rawr.Bear
Jan 10, 2010 at 3:36 AM

Are the preset survival/target raw damage a little low for ICC 25 in the bear module?

Jan 10, 2010 at 3:54 AM

Err, there aren't any presets for ICC25. I use Custom>300,000 for Survival Soft Cap, and Custom>100,000 for Target Damage.

Jan 10, 2010 at 5:00 AM

thanks astrylian! how do you calculate the survival soft cap?

Jan 10, 2010 at 5:59 AM

It's not 'calculated', it's totally subjective. It's supposed to be the point at which you have 'enough' survivability to not get bursted down normally. That varies alot, by fight, and especially by your healers.

Jan 10, 2010 at 9:24 AM

Do you generally check or uncheck parry haste?  I have heard most ICC bosses don't but...I haven't read it anywhere with any official or really well tested context.

Jan 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM

I believe he checks parry haste on.

Jan 10, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Aye, I personally do, because I want to be prepared for the harder stuff.

Jan 10, 2010 at 6:48 PM
Astrylian wrote:

Aye, I personally do, because I want to be prepared for the harder stuff.

If none of them parry haste then you are gimping yourself though....wtb Blizz telling us if they have removed parry haste like they were discussing :).


Jan 10, 2010 at 7:18 PM

Not necessarily. I compare the difference, and right now there's very little difference between my optimal set vs parry hasting boss and vs non-parry hasting. It's just more threat focused, basically.

Jan 10, 2010 at 8:28 PM
Edited Jan 10, 2010 at 11:39 PM

well, as it stands right now, the hardest hitting boss in ICC is Festergut when he has 3 stacks. So basing numbers around him would theoretically be the safest setting to set around


I'm looking at WoL of a guild that had a Druid Off-tank but tanked the boss during one of the 3-stacks


[23:53:22.578] Festergut hits Hodige 22505 (A: 2077)
[23:53:23.578] Festergut hits Hodige 29912 (A: 1152)
[23:53:24.703] Festergut Gastric Bloat Hodige 9588 (R: 1248)
[23:53:24.843] Festergut hits Hodige 26351
[23:53:27.640] Festergut hits Hodige 20988 (A: 4537)
[23:53:28.531] Festergut hits Hodige 21746 (A: 2077)
[23:53:29.453] Festergut hits Hodige 29589
[23:53:30.468] Festergut hits Hodige 27640
[23:53:32.296] Festergut hits Hodige 26898

There could have been some dodge and misses in there. But it should help to figure out a number to aim for.



Jan 11, 2010 at 12:05 AM

Aye, I tried to tank him in cat spec cat gear up to 8 stacks for the dps boost on our first 25man pulls.


It was a bad plan, not gunna lie.

Jan 11, 2010 at 1:07 AM
Edited Jan 11, 2010 at 1:08 AM

Now I can see getting 3-4 stacks then hopping into kitty and going to town but that is it when in kitty spec/gear, when Festergut is at 0-1 stacks but I wouldn't go any higher

Jan 11, 2010 at 5:52 AM
Edited Jan 11, 2010 at 5:52 AM

Aye, our healers kept me up with him at 2 stacks, but with he'd inhale the 3rd time I'd drop.  Massive credit to our healers.  I think I've got less then 40k hp in cat gear/spec while in Bear form.